Britain's dirty little torture secret »

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Officially, Britain disapproves of rendition, the CIA's shadowy capture and transport of terror suspects. In reality we have helped

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FrankieT
Oct. 22, 2006, 2:39 p.m.
If true, this is flat out wrong.
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Lurch
Oct. 22, 2006, 4:44 p.m.
It would be interesting, and perhaps scary, to see two things:
1) a statistical analysis of the correlation between the number of innocents we kidnap and the number of followers we enable the terrorists to recruit
2) a breakdown of how many millions we are spending per actual terrorist to get any decent info; torture only works within a very short period of time - after that they lose their fear and will just say anything to make the torture stop. Typically this wastes hundreds of man-hours investigating and ruling out false positives.
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thaw
Oct. 22, 2006, 6 p.m.
well, i know the maher arar case. and the rcmp gave the states information the had on arar that had not been substantiated and the states had him "deported" to syria and was tortured for ten months. the canadian gov't then after finding the info they produced to the american gov't was unsubstantiated and turned out to be false, had a hard time finally convincing syria to return him. and that's our conservative gov't.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-10-06T215740Z_01_N06369230_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-CANADA-USA.xml&src=rss
this is an older story but a good read none the less.
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zac7
Oct. 22, 2006, 9:41 p.m.
Ok all i have to say is do you think the media and politically leaders actually care about torture and what not, the answer is no. They are using this and other events to get elected or the party they favor elected because you the people know whats right, so who should be running the country???? the left or right both using propaganda over exaggerated and under exaggerated stories to get elected
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blinkers
Oct. 22, 2006, 10:11 p.m.
It's sometimes forgotten that, unlike the US, Britain has no written Constitution, no sacred document against which citizens can definitively judge the actions of their government. This makes Britain a pretty handy ally in the netherworld of CIA "renditions" activity. The UK public, I'm sure, shares with Americans overwhelming outrage at the various terrorist actions of Jihadists and others, but, free from the strictures of "Founding Fathers'" traditions or Declarations of Independence is not unduly worried by such extralegal activity if it is clearly in the interests of national security. Indeed, given the UK Government's apparent success in uncovering homegrown terrorist cells, I wonder what other "extralegal" means have been utilized.
This is all conjecture, on my part, but it is of extreme interest in the context of the alleged ongoing unconstitutional activities of the Bush administration.
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parak
Oct. 22, 2006, 11:01 p.m.
Torture will never die as means of obtaining information as also to get even. War & aggression is the source cause & thats what needs to be banned. Torture will stop automatically.