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Disillusion Sets In For Quiznos Franchisees
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Disillusion Sets In For Quiznos Franchisees

Do No Evil – "On Nov. 27, Bhupinder Baber walked into a Quiznos restaurant on the outskirts of Los Angeles. He spoke briefly with the manager before stepping into the restroom and shooting himself three times in the chest. Mr. Baber died that evening. In a note he left behind, Mr. Baber, ... blamed the sandwich chain for destroying his life."

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I see too many of these stores and too many subways too. A lot of times there is just one or 2 customers in the store. I know they could not be making money.

Why don't people just use their common sense?

People think just because they buy a known business they will be succesful and rich.

Another corporate lie!

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I ate at a Quizno's...once!! The food is bad and over priced.

I dropped $25.00 on two meals, I would have been happier with a couple of cheap Mac burgers.

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People just want to make money quick without doing their due diligence. However, when I started my business I looked at every single aspect and I still lost money. But I learned a few things, switched products and now we are kicking butt.

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Great! What kind of business you've got?

What's telling about this story is how Quizno's seems to gouging its franchisees, but as you say one has to do its due dilligence; caviat emptor.

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"his goals, which so far include reducing food costs enough so that profits for an average Quiznos should climb by at least $10,000 a year."

What a dream getting paid $10,000 a year for the glamorous life of a restaurant owner.

As an owner your profit is your pay check

52 weeks /year x 7days /week - Christmas Easter and Thanksgiving x Min. of 12hr days = $2.30/ hr

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no, it just sounds like you and your business fail to deliver....

if you worked 12 hours a day, $2.30/hr, you could not support a family, more or less yourself. unless you are working out of your mothers basement, or suckling your spouses money teets, you dont run a business. nobody can live off of $2.30 an hour...period.

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Ah... that's my point.

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Could I get two Quiznos to go, please?

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Sounds like time to boycott Quiznos in spite of their ads--or maybe indirectly because of all they spend on their ads.

I'll not have a thing from Quiznos until mext year, and only then if I have heard that they started treating their franchisees right!

Better yet, lets have some legislation breaking up such corporations, paying off the fanchisees and using our government Small Business Administration to offer no interest loans to the workers of each restrauant to buy out their owners and set up capitalist cooperatives, the only fair form of capitalist business!

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Large franchise or mom and pop restaurant every one looks at the owner as an unlimited cash supply. Every 3 months the landlord comes up with a new fee. The food supplier will give you a better price if you double your order then when the products arrives the dew date is the day after you get it. Customers always trying to get something for free, bad checks, shoplifters and $1 credit card purchases. Paying a premium for bad help that rob you blind. Ah the good life. The days of Ray Kroc are long gone. If you have a boat load of money to throwaway you can send it directly to me instead of a restaurant it's a lot more efficient.

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That's true of most small business.

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this is not good for quiznos. from what i see subways is doing much better. people are loosing their houses. a quiznos by my university had at most 5 customers in it at a time. i couldnt see how they were making money. it was like a front. i went there every week. last year i went and i was shocked to see a notice on the window that the police kicked them out. its not a joke. i know that someone probably lost there house and everything. the quiznos logo is still there but its still closed. quiznos probably would try to sale that poor location to a franchisee. not buying form their restaurants in protest is not gonna help the franchisee..and its not gonna heart the people up high. i dont see how they are in business all the stores i see are always empty. im usually the only one eating in. it is a scam you can not buy success! you have to work hard. there $8 sandwiches are competing against a full boston market meal $5 subways etc. and i know their spending a load of cash on each store.

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Caveat Emptor! Maybe, they should read and understand the licensing agreements before jumping head long into something. If it sounds too good to be true, then its not true. It doesn't take too much common sense to figure out how many sandwiches they need to sell each day just to break even.

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"40 percent of Quiznos units are not breaking even" that's probably the most disturbing thing possible. I regularly eat at Quizno's...i think it's pretty good, but I could never see owning one of their franchises because of how expensive their sandwhiches are. For a complete meal it can run upwards of $10...that's a lot for fast food.

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Soon people will get over the whole Atkins diet craze. Quiznos will start selling like hot cakes (which will themselves start selling well once again).

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From the very beginning I was totally turned off by their product and wondered why anyone would invest in that company. It's a heart attack shop.

Plus, the idea of dipping your sandwiches in a brine is even more grotesque. I guess if you're a slob and like to eat like a pig you'd be attracted to this dining concept.

To be fair, I find all fast food joints repugnant.

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Haha! Yeah, they do dip their meat into some mystery juice before they send it through the oven. Seems a little strange to me.

F**k Quiznos AND Subway. I can get a delicious homemade footlong at a little local pizza shop for about $3.25.

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I'm very anti big business and always spend locally whenever I can. And I feel for someone who got screwed by a big company. However, there's a process known as "due diligence" where you actually do your homework and make decisions grounded in reality based upon research.

Maybe Quiznos did screw him over but he made the decision to invest. Quiznos didn't kill him just like the Judas Priest song didn't kill that teenager years ago who committed suicide.

And there's a future lawsuit that will arise out of this incident or a similar one. No one is responsible for anything they do -- it's a terrible world we live in today!

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I am the Brood Witch.

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awwww. . . how sad

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I had not eaten at a Quiznos until a couple weeks ago. It was in a very small town so maybe they try harder but I must say the sandwiches we had were very good, the price was not bad and yes, we were the only two people in the store.

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There is no such thing as business without risk. Most franchises like Quiznos do well compared to other business ventures (most of which fail within the first 5 years) but there is no guarantee.

I think there are many factors that affect whether or not a franchise (or any business really) does well but I think we have all eaten at establishments where the quality and service were not good enough to justify a return visit. How well the business/franchise owner manages their business is a big determining factor.

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What kind of an idiot would (1) shoot himself in the chest, and (2) take three tries to get it right? Maybe Quiznos wasn't the problem

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The same kinda guy who burnt my sandwich instead of toasting it, forgot to add cheese, but added the mayo that I didn't request. It takes some people 3 tries even to do the wrong thing right.

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That's because he didn't understand you. You need to learn to speak his language. C'mon, you're in America now

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whew - you guys are harsh. Funny, though.

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They should have never given up on the spongmonkeys.

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People who lose money are unpredictable. Many a stock broker has been murdered by their client, and have also taken their own lives.

Being in business in the 21st Century isn't easy.

I've been to Quiznos, it was packed, and it was pretty good.

Don't know what the person talking about dipping in "brine" is talking about.

I don't think a corporation should be held responsible for someone's depression and disillusion that they'll be rich.

We're all looking for that easy money gig.

My sympathies go Mr. Baber's family, but he was wrong to kill himself. It really is the coward's way out to blame someone, or something else on your shortcomings.

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I have never ever tasted anything from quiznos or subway or a hell lot of fast food crapshacks.

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Good for you virgin x. Whatever.

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Hey, It's true I have a friend that worked there... in a Quizno's in south florida. The owner was always complainig about the company... corporate wouldn't let him put up pictures of the little league baseball team that he once catered ... or local celebrities either. Freakin subs r overrated.

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I have it on good authority that the real reason he shot himself was because his pet rock died

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what type of weapon did he use? how does one shoot ones self 3 times?? Shouldn't you be at least in serious pain after the 1st one?

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I have eaten at Quiznos, but after reading the article, I am not inclined to do so again. We have a local restaurant where I live that produces far better subs and uses locally grown produce when it is available. To say nothing of the fact, that I prefer to cook at home. Always tastes better when I get to eat food I have prepared myself.

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Yes folks, live life conservatively. Go work for others...buy or rent shelter at a place you can afford...keep doing your due diligence until the opportunity past you bye.

Then the day will come like today, were you can gloat about the misfortune of others. You're sooooo smart.

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I love Quiznos food!!! MMMMMM Toasty! Little weird though......

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American corporations are self-serving entities and propogate much questionable, unethical, if not illegal behavior. However, I'm not interested in bashing corporations; that would take a lifetime. This fellow commited suicide. Not to be harsh, but anyone who commits suicide deserves their fate. Suicide is the ultimate expression of giving up. What happened this this man may have been terrible, but it didn't merit throwing away his life.

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Suicide is not necessarily the ultimate expression of giving up. There are many factors that lead to suicide or suicidal tendencies. It is a good thing you are not a doctor or on a suicide hotline; you would end up killing a lot of people.

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All large corporations have investors, large over head costs, not to mention having to deal with hiring and firing people that lie, cheat, and steal. Not to mention dealing with the gerneral public, i.e. people who want it all, want it now, and DON'T CARE HOW.

That being said, we should not take and put up with their lack of support for their franchise owners, instead of being ignorantly reactionary, people should develope a network of support and do something about it.

I don't think all corporations are evil, but alot of the business tactics are not throughly thought through.

I really wish people would STOP AND THINK about the serious impact they have on others with their words and actions.

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eh,ahen, Think by not seeing enough of 'Bob' might have had something to do with it? lol

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Corporate Greed! WOW, there's a new one!

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The guy was just weak....he didnt look at the profit and loss sheets for comparable businesses...no market survey for the area of the store ect. He made a bad business decision and when it went sour...he couldnt handle it. NEVER gamble (especially in the franchise world) with scared money! You wouldnt do it in Vegas, why do it in business? I do not feel sorry for him....just his family. He couldnt live with the results of HIS decisions. Boycotting Quiznos just puts other people LIKE HIM out of business.....YAH...way to go!!

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You don't feel sorry for him or you can't feel sorry for him? Suicide is an easy answer to a very complex problem, that's human nature. It sounds like Quizno's have put unreasonable constraints on the business that no person could forsee with due diligence checks. The people that sell these franchises are slick marketers promising support and guidance all the way. How many people enter in to these ventures under the pretence that they will recieve what was initially promised? If he had been free to purchase food, dry goods, pay wages, utilities and market the business of his own accord, maybe the business would have stood a chance of being profitable. Under the current business model, it didn't stand a chance. I feel sorry for him.

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Suicide is the only option after watching one of their rat commercials.

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