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Posted by: berkeley 1 year, 5 months ago103 Comments Report this Story
4. Marijuana is not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol.
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STONERS1 year, 5 months ago
The government has tried to use criminal penalties to prevent marijuana use for over 75 years and yet: marijuana is now used by over 25 million people annually, cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States, and marijuana is grown all over the planet.
You can say that again,great submission berkeley...
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STONERS1 year, 5 months ago
Marijuana is not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol.
It is established scientific fact that marijuana is not toxic to humans; marijuana overdoses are nearly impossible, and marijuana is not nearly as addictive as alcohol or tobacco. It is unfair and unjust to treat marijuana users more harshly under the law than the users of alcohol or tobacco.
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elzorro21621 year, 5 months ago
Don't forget the organized crime and gang violence around this drug and the deaths in our cities.
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jennygerms1 year, 5 months ago
agree 100%. I have to ask if your screen name relates to all this. You know, stoner? Ok sorry.
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Candida1 year, 5 months ago
OS2x: "Marijuana and tobacco are both disgusting."
I agree that they are both disgusting, but I would allow users to open their windows once in a while. They do generate greenhouse gases, but we all do, and they need some fresh air too.
Are alcohol users 100% liable for the consequences? I don't have statistics, but my guess is that alcohol ruins more lives than marijuana. I guess we should add alcohol to the 100% liability group. How about eating too much fat, sugar or salt? Or extreme sports? Prescription drugs?
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invest071 year, 5 months ago
I take exception with #4 and #5 and have no way to judge #1. The rest is reasonably true.
In addition to the tax revenue generated by taxing legal pot, think about how much could be saved by law enforcement and the court system.
Imagine abolishing the DEA.
And while we are chopping wasteful and unecessary gov't programs lets get rid of the EPA, NEA, PBS, NPR, OSHA, Dept of "Education", HHS and the IRS.
And while we are at it, let's also abolish Social "Security" and send me back all my money plus a fair amount of interest. It that would happen, I could retire tomorrow with instead of waiting 10 more years and with more $.
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kctrixter1 year, 5 months ago
Animal tests have revealed that extremely high doses of cannabinoids are needed to have lethal effect. This has led scientists to conclude that the ratio of the amount of cannabinoids necessary to get a person intoxicated (i.e., stoned) relative to the amount necessary to kill them is 1 to 40,000. In other words, to overdose, you would have to consume 40,000 times as much marijuana as you needed to get stoned. In contrast, the ratio for alcohol varies between 1 to 4 and 1 to 10. It is easy to see how upwards of 5000 people die from alcohol overdoses every year and no one EVER dies of marijuana overdoses.
It would be much easier to overdose and die on water
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
You "take exception" to 4 and 5?Do you have some new information to back that opinion up?
The drug war is and always has been based on lies,right from the very beginning when the govt made up the word "marihuana",it had always been known as cannabis and was an ingredient in 90% of all medicines before it was outlawed ,against the advice of the AMA
A finding of fact by the DEA's own judge stated "In strict medical terms,marijuana is far safer than many of the foods we commonly consume"
Here is that finding,page 58 ,paragraph 15...do you have any scientific evidence to dispute it?
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studie
OS2x-Is this "sensible " enough for you? Wanting to see scientific proof of a claim?
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earthlingerer1 year, 5 months ago
I've been in "rehab", with thousands of others forced to go there by courts as an "opportunity". And this is always without a conviction, but an "opportunity" to save a lot of legal fees.
Yeah, the criminal records certainly have ruined a lot of lives.
First, marijuana is less addictive than coffee, less harmful than tobacco or alcohol (or white sugar) to the user or society at large.
But yeah, I do feel sad for those lives destroyed by the laws surrounding marijuana.
What's even more sickening is that any convicted rapist, pedophile, or murderer can get Federal Financial Aid for higher education, while someone convicted of posession of even one joit can't.
But you can try to drum up the state referrals for your unneeded, unproven voodoo, CheifOD'd
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ChefEOD1 year, 5 months ago
Unfortunately for your argument, it is not "my" voodoo. The place I work for has been in existance for 107 years and is a member of an organization of over 350 simular missions.
This thread is about drugs destroying lives, not the laws, and not murderers or rapists so keep your lame attempt to change the topic to yourself.
As for your "First, marijuana is less addictive than coffee, less harmful than tobacco or alcohol (or white sugar) to the user or society at large", I can give you thousands of people that come through these organizations every year that will tell you quite differently. Almost every single one will tell you that it was marijuana that led them to other more harmfull drugs, so we are not talking about marihuana only.
I do not know about your situation but we take in people who "want" to be here, who come here of their own decision, no one is ever forced.
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STONERS1 year, 5 months ago
Rediculious!!! I would like to check and read your ""rehab"" records-in all my life I have never seen anybodies life ruined over smoking weed--roflmao--good one...
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 5 months ago
There is more to your picture than just MJ, I am sure you are seeing people with multiple drug use, not just MJ.
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STONERS1 year, 5 months ago
((Almost every single one will tell you that it was marijuana that led them to other more harmfull drugs, so we are not talking about marihuana only.)) A selected few doesnt mean that everybody has gone to a more harmful drugs--lol!!! Its a loosing battle for you people to sit back and pass judgement on all smokers.I for one am quiet successful in life,I own my home-cars and Im a Computer Programmer and have a savings account big enough to choke a horse.So dont sit back and say this is ruining our lives just because a known crack head has been smoking a little pot as well doesnt mean pot is ruining their lives.Its the heavy drug users that are loosing control.Do your counceling on heavy drug users..
This man has lost everything because he couldnt control his munchies---ROFLMAO!!! Get a grip!!!!!
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ChefEOD1 year, 5 months ago
Think what you may stoners but I was quite careful NOT to say that everyone who does or has smoked marijuana goes on to harder drugs. And, I fully understand that there are many out there who partake and lead productive lives, congratulations to you. And, I would agree on some basis that marijuana use alone should be decriminalized simply because of how it has clogged our legal & prison system. At least then it would minimize the funding of criminal & terrorist organizations that are in the import business. But none of that negates the fact that the 10's of thousands of people all the facilities like our's treats will almost to the man say that their addictive behavior began with marijuana. For you and your ilk it may seem harmless but there are many for whom it is not.
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jennygerms1 year, 5 months ago
sniff, my name is Jenny and Im a milkoholic. Thanks for listening. Man watch out for the milk, that stuff will mess you up,
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
Especially if it's spiked with the addictive and potentially lethal drug...chocolate!
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
Here is a 12 year study by the University of Pittsburgh that says marijuana is NOT a gateway drug -
http://health.netscape.com/story/2006/12/04/study-
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ChefEOD1 year, 5 months ago
Amazing, those thousands of councilors working in those hundreds of organizations with those 10's of thousands of patients/clients have been wrong all these dozens of years. And a public university in a study ran by people who could not possibly have an liberal agenda proved this without a doubt. Boy I'm sold!
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nostalgia1 year, 5 months ago
I have mixed feelings on this subject.
I could care less what an adult does in their own home.
I worked with 2 nurses back in the 1970's who were suspected of smoking MJ at break and lunch - in an ICU no less. It was absolutely dangerous! There were several complaints made to the head nurse but nothing was done. Many of us simply started to refuse to work with them. Finally they were transferred.
I've also had the unplesant experience of driving with someone who had been smoking - an experience I'd never want to have again
So where do you draw the line - can't smoke MJ at work, can't smoke MJ and drive?
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crespi1 year, 5 months ago
People I know just buy it from a dude down the street growing in his basement.
No drug cartels and the money goes back into the community.
Choosing between an armed with a gun, wild-eyed fanatic high on hate (who wants to "get even" with gays or black people) or an armed with a lighter, eyes half-closed stoner high on pot (who wants to go to 7-11)...who would YOU pick as less detrimental to the neighborhood?
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Mermaid81 year, 5 months ago
ha- wat ever. weed is such a problem, just because we are always fighting over it. i want weed to be legalized for a year- and see if the economy goes down, and see the effect it has on schools, and jobs and what not. cause i am agianst weed or any type of drug, but that is just me. and i just want to see if weed is truly that bad for the world. j/w.
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
In every place that marijuana has been legalized or decriminalized,use has gone down.Economy? Schools? Jobs?
If marijuana is smuggled in from Mexico (they only catch 10%),the seller is in Mexico,eventually the money makes it back there instead of into our economy.A recent economic study predicted that if legal,marijuana could bring in 14 billion a year into our economy.Which leads me to Schools...dont you think our schools could use a chunk of that 14 billion?To teach truthful drug education?
And then there is jobs...how about the hemp industry just for starters...the US Dept of Agriculture determined that if legal,marijuana would cost a farmer about $4 per pound to grow.If the farmer sold the stuff for $100 per pound and there was a tax of $100 per pound the cost to consumers would be 10 times cheaper (no stealing),and the farmer would be able to buy Ma that fancy little dress she's been eyeballing.In the link I gave with every study,you wont find anything like what you've heard.
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
Another study conducted at the expense of the taxpayer. Next there will be another study on the sexuality of cockroaches that will probably cost over a million.
If a person uses hemp without harming others why is the government being involved in personal choices. Oops, now I have brought up abortion!!!
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 5 months ago
As a former user, I agree with all reasons given.
Problem is, there are too many people getting filthy rich over busts, procecuting and further processing these otherwise law-abiding Americans. Money talks, and so the ruination of tokers goes on, and the deaths from alcohol mount up.
It's a sick society we live in.
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jennygerms1 year, 5 months ago
I say make it legal and tax the heck out of it and make some money. As a nation we tried prohibition and it caused more problems than anything, thats why it was repealed. In the future this will probley be viewed in the same way. I think making hemp legal would solve a lot of problems. Think of the resources we spend enforcing that law, think how full our jails are.
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
Marijuana has been legal in Alaska since 1975,not many people even know this and I haven't heard a flood of reports of people dropping dead on the street.Ironically it is legal because the Alaska supreme court ruled that possession in ones home was protected under the right to privacy in the Alaska state constitution which is almost word for word,our federal constitution.
Hemp,which is different from marijuana was just legalized this year in North Dakota and has been working its way through the legislatures of 14 other states.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
I think it should be legal for many reasons, I have only one problem with it comparred to drinking...when you drink it goes into your body, so if the kids are around and you want to have a drink or a beer...fine, but if you want to smoke a bowl or a joint, kids can't/shouldn't be there.
If the drunks would get high instead, I think it would cut down on domestic violence too!
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
In the 80's,the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA),a govt propaganda scource,conducted a poll of gay people and found that over 90% of respondants admitted to using marijuana (heres where the govt twist comes in)...therefore,since AIDS is a "gay" disease,and most gays smoke weed....marijuana causes AIDS
The gateway theory was disproven decades ago by the National Academy of Sciences .I had a friend get forced into rehab because of a drug test for work...the first thing they told him was that if you take one hit off a joint "you are an addict for life".He stopped smoking for about a month to give it a fair shot but got tired of the BS and started smoking again (his usual half a joint a day),the whole time the rehab place was bragging about what a good job they were doing,they even came to his workplace and told the personnel director what a good job he was doing.The bad thing was that while in rehab,he started drinking heavily and became a total a$$.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 5 months ago
Governed by the same laws as alcohol, no public -, no driving while- no underage-, etc..etc...yah get the taxes from it! why not?, it's going to go on regardless, why let the drug dealers have all the benefits?
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CrazyDiamond1 year, 5 months ago
Drug wars is just an excuse for the government to keep the drug lords in business, I think there is some money passing hands here, it just don't make sense to keep doing this. Didn't they learn any thing during prohibition?
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river-rat1 year, 5 months ago
I do not believe that marijauana is a gateway drug. If there is such a thing as a gateway drug how about alcohol or even tobacco. There is a definite high when you first start to smoke and then you become adicted and have to smoke more often to keep your body from complaining. An alcoholic needs to drink to keep a certain chemical balance in their body or suffer withdrawl. This does not happen with marijauna. There are adictive personalities and they will become addicted to something. People become addicted to food, gambling, shoppingand a variety of drugs. Marijauna helps people with pain, nausea and other health problems. It can produce a pleasant recreational high if that is what you are looking for but it does not cause you to have to get high tomorrow or feel ill if you don't. Yes there are people who smoke to much but they could stop if they wanted to without ill effects. I have known a number of people who did this. Some people need a cruth and MJ is as good as any.
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mntnman4441 year, 5 months ago
Hey CALLISTO
I see you are new here and you sunk this story,and I see you are an ass.DA...that explains why you sink and run...you have no valid arguments against legalization,coward.
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