Do No Evil – Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed.
I was watching some of the other scientology videos. Whacky.
Just read Hubbard's ten book series "Mission Earth" and all the answers become clear. LOL
Yeah. Read all of his works and you'll get a good picture of the psychotic genuis that started a Religion which has managed to capture the minds (and money) of many.
Watch Southpark's episode on Scientology, also, to get a good idea of what they believe. It's bizzare.
"Read all of his works and you'll get a good picture of the psychotic genuis that started a Religion which has managed to capture the minds (and money) of many."
Now are we talking about Paul or Jesus?
One thing for certain is that Scientology is one HELL of a lot more believable than the Christian religion.
Science is also a whole lot more believable, but oddly enough still requires the same amount (if not more) of faith and does nothing to discount either Christianity or Scientology.
Computers, air craft and heart transplants work equally well, no matter the amount of faith is applied.
You are correct, science does not discount either Christianity or Scientology, but it does discount some things that certain Christians and Scientologists hold near and dear. Things like, an Earth less than 10,000 years old or E-meters.
I think most people who hold themselves to be christians are much more into the TEACHINGS of christ, rather than the theology of christianity, in the same way Buddhists live by a philosophy, rather than a religion.
But, I'll say that christ as son of god/god is much more believable than the Xenu flying everyone to earth on DC-8s and then using quite primitive (compared to his other technology) hydrogen bombs to blow them up.
Want to "release" body thetans effortlessly? Have a double helping of chili, or three bean salad. You can hear their moans and whispers of pain as they are released behind you a few hours after your meal!
I am not a fan of scientology - but at the same time, I can't condone what these people are doing. Imagine if it was aimed at Jews or Muslims. We would all act differently.
Again, I can understand where they are coming from - scientology is strange and you can argue that it's not fair to the lower ranked members in the group. But it's no one groups place to decide that another group shouldn't be allowed to exist.
Right on dbl-D. The opinions on right to persecute - based on faith (or lack thereof) appear to be highly subjective, don't they? Herd mentality the way I see it.
I'm not a scientologist, but I've studied some works and applied several bits of their information to life - no regrets. As I do with most "religions" and church doctrine, I take what is of benefit/use, and ignore the rest. I don't berate people or their beliefs if I don't understand them - unless fired upon first, and that's not even a given.
Is sciento;logy a religion...seems to me more of a cult..if they cannot answer the question, they sue you...Imagin if the catholic church sued all it non believers..ha// I wonder if Tom Cruise knows all of scientologys past??
The difference between a religion and a cult is this : acceptance. Christianity was considered a cult for hundreds of years until Constantine declared it the state religion at which point it was accepted. Strangely enough the government considers it a religion and grants them a tax exempt status. Makes me wonder about those in charge...
No. There are specific clues to a cult. Such as personality-driven (Western "gurus"), isolation-prone, teaching that someone who leaves is broken (or preventing people from leaving), the amount of freedom given members in making their own choices, maintaining a member's dignity, and having a structure for addressing concerns.
It's all relative, granted, but there's more of a difference than simply "acceptance."
Your right
It would have been better for me to have said that a cult differers from a religion in that their practices are so different or bad that it cannot be accepted by the mainstream, most of the time for the very reasons which you stated.
All religions fit the definiton of the word cult. It is only recently that cult has taken on a negative meaning, in the past it was no different than sect.
Main Entry: cult
Pronunciation: 'k<
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: French & Latin; French culte, from Latin cultus care, adoration, from colere to cultivate รข;;more at WHEEL
Date: 1617
1 : formal religious veneration : WORSHIP
2 : a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3 : a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents
4 : a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator
5 a : great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book); especially : such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad b : a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion
Frankly I don't see Scientology as being all that different from many of the world's established followings. Every following has a group of people who function a bit out of the norm and draw the big guns in to demolish the entire program. Some, by shear numbers, survive. Do I believe everything they teach - no. Do I believe every pastor of organized faith - no. Do I believe there are people out to dismiss anything and everything that they don't espouse themselves to - yes.
Anyone care to toss up an organization that everyone(!) would openly accept, that has no "extremists", or that hasn't been involved in some sort of under-the-table, covert, or questionable behaviors? If you can, I can find or form an organization to dig up (or create) more dirt than you can come up with answers for.
This is absurdity IMO.
Scientology is very extremist in the way they keep the flock brainwashed and subservient. And trying to compare organizations and implying one's worse than another belies the point that this cult Scientology, has many, many bad features that should not be condoned. Just because you found a few things that you say helped you does not cancel the harm they do to others.
I'm not discounting any harm done by zealous Scientologists - nor any other organization, let alone organized religion that has made a point of diminishing those who do not believe in their particular ideology. I can name a few faiths that have seen people to their deaths, fought a number of "holy wars", and among them have a few members of those faiths we've heard call for the assassination of those they don't approve of.
I studied in two different places, and never - ever, had anyone try to coerce me into anything. Topics of study were offered; I said "no thanks", and that was it. As well, I have a brother who has studied Scientology for over 30 years; gone through the org's, become "clear", and a host of other things I don't keep posted on. He doesn't impose it on his own wife, who along with their children, have no affiliation with the Church of Scientology.
I have personal experience. Your knowledge comes from what?
Same as you, from personal experience. Had a close friend who had dabbled with scientology until he wised up with a little help from his friends.
Thanks. Only because I don't like to see anyone abused or used - period(!) do I regret that your experience wasn't a good one. That mine was, means nothing to anyone but me really, and I hope nobody considers it an endorsement. I don't know of anyone that has had a bad personal experience that wasn't two-sided. Well, at least I didn't think so.
I think there are enough people (and I'm not insinuating anything by this, so please don't take it personally) who are looking for answers outside of themselves who hear a message of "salvation" and expect that someone else can "cure" them. When that doesn't happen, there are usually problems. Other times the art of sophistry is so well-rehearsed and perfected that people drink Kool-Aid and find out too late it was not what they paid for. Unfortunately, "caveat emptor" isn't a mantra of the masses, or those desperate for a solution.
Well, there's really no doubt about it, Scientology is W.A.C.K.Y. in all caps. It's very hard for me to understand how anyone, no matter how simpleminded, could buy into that silly crap. But then again, it wasn't really all THAT long ago that some nutcase named Joseph Smith came up with something not much less wacky than this. And look what happened there. Yet another illustration of how foolish and stupid people can be if they let their guard down even a little.
I use to be very much into a science-fiction like religion when I was a boy. It dealt with planets, breeding human like beings ON planets, a submarine like ship that didn't sink when it had a hole in the top and bottom of it as it traveled to the New World where people turned dark in color and would turn white again if they were good. It dealt with all the white people being killed off BY those who turned dark in color, but, was recorded on golden plates by one remaining white guy who would later become a glowing, angelic being and show up in a young guy's room, telling him a certain thing atleast three times, as if the guy had a problem with memory. And, these golden plates were then taken up into orbit like something out of the imagination of Arthur C. Clark. I think you know what religion I'm talking about.
Scientology makes me wonder why no one has taken the works of H.P. Lovecraft and turned it into a religion.
"outside the ordered universe, where no dreams reach; that last amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the centre of all infinity - the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin, monotonous whine of accursed flutes; to which detestable pounding and piping dance slowly, awkwardly, and absurdly the gigantic Ultimate gods, the blind, voiceless, tenebrous, mindless Other gods whose soul and messenger is the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep"
I mean how could anyone doubt that Azaroth exists its all there in his books?
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Supposedly this video was made by the people who shutdown the 'church' of scientology website. Wikinews has some more info for those wanting it:
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