Bush, the Nazis and America »
Posted by: SonOfTheMask 6 months, 2 weeks ago234 Comments Report this Story
The questions raised by the known facts about the Bush family's connections to the Nazi war machine should really be a matter of some national moment, because they raise serious issues about the relationship between America and Nazism and its atrocities, and the ramifications of those ties in today's world.
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SonOfTheMask6 months, 2 weeks ago
A series of four articles...read all of them. I'm putting this on Propeller because I'm tired of reading smear comments that suggest Prescott Bush was a Nazi.
The author, David Neiwert, does a good job of examining various views and has good links to other articles and information. I recommend you take the time to read these links, especially Phil Leggiere's "The Indiscreet Charm of the Bush Nazi Web Conspiracists" and Cecil Adams' "Was President Bush's Great-Grandfather a Nazi?" on The Straight Dope.
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Klarissa6 months, 2 weeks ago
Very, very well written. I hope that everyone reads clear to the end of the third part.
An aside, in reference to the part on birth control. In my research for a history book I learned that purchasing or selling birth control products were illegal in most states
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HannibalBarca6 months, 1 week ago
Funny how those Brits stood alone in June 1940 till June 41 and then Russia was dragged in eh!!!
And as much as Chamberlain wanted no war, so did the American public, forcing FDR to use tricky politics to help England in all that time
H ell, Germany declared war on USA so don't sound so righteous as you were dragged in also
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Goppy6 months, 1 week ago
Where is THIS comin from then?
I certainly dont hear bout GWs great grandfather bein a NAZI! I mean, comeon! That was 70 years ago! Many sympathized with the NAZIs. Look at Charles Linberg! He spoke out loudly & often bout supportin the NAZIs.
If you ask me, what "I" hear moren anything is we Conservtives calllin Liburals NAZIs. I believe the code word is "Lib-NAZI'.
Liek this, Listen ..
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""Typical rude and sarcastic arrogance by the nazi liberal media. Not even interested in the conservative point of view and just wanting us to shut up about. NOT GONNA HAPPEN STUPIDS! Your nazi methods and appalling arrogance will never shut us up. U don't have the talent or the moxies for it. Try looking at us in another way instead of down your snob noses. U think and delude yourselves into thinking you're better than us but what you're really doing is making yourselves look like utter fools.""
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joeeddie6 months, 1 week ago
Aren't you the one who called me a German something-or-other (implying I was a Nazi) when I commented on one of my first threads about how most professors are liberal? I remember those days fondly. I guess for you it is typical to call others out for the same behavior that you use. Hilariously hypocritical. So I guess it's an example of you thinking you are better than "us" and not making yourself to look like an utter fool...
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SonOfTheMask6 months, 2 weeks ago
FTA: "It must be said that none of their business dealings build any kind of case for the contention that either Prescott Bush or George Herbert Walker, the president's forebears, had anything more than a superficial ideological affinity for the Nazis. It is clear that from the majority of these actions that they primarily saw Nazi Germany as an excellent investment opportunity and had not the least hesitation about either doing business with Hitler, nor did they seem to consider the consequences of doing so very grave -- if anything, they were advantageous to their worldview."
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Dionys6 months, 1 week ago
It's also illegal in most states to get fuked in the a$$, but Bush is doing it to us constantly.
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libsRfunny6 months, 1 week ago
You want to know who had REAL dealings with the Nazis and sympathized with them? I'll tell you: Henry Ford.
The Ford Motor company actually paid war reparations for helping build and establish mass-production manufacturing facilities in Germany, Ford sold the Ford Tri-motor airplane plans to Germany and helped build the factories. Ford was a fervent anti-Semite and published an anti-Semitic paper.
Little wonder to me that Dearborn, Michigan, home-base of Ford Motor Company, also happens to have the largest Muslim/Arab population outside of the Middle East.
But, even Henry Ford came around on the subject of the Nazis, as well as famed aviator Charles Lindbergh
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Tcaros6 months, 1 week ago
Your argument is exactly the defense purported by most Nazi's. They first were not "really" Nazi's for merely following orders. Secondly, they pretend as if their actions had nothing to do with sentencing innnocent people to death. Some financial dealings certainly must have been isolated from the real crime, really? That's hogwash and you know it.
The truth is that anyone who aided the Nazi's was helping to that end.
"The point was that George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, had the assets of the family business seized by the U.S. Government under the Trading With The Enemy Act of 1941. Much of the Bush family fortune was made by dealing with Nazi Germany -- both before and during World War II."
How do you reconcile this from the article you've submitted?
Please explain your trite analysis?
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injest6 months, 1 week ago
"The point was that George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, had the assets of the family business seized by the U.S. Government under the Trading With The Enemy Act of 1941. Much of the Bush family fortune was made by dealing with Nazi Germany -- both before and during World War II."
How do you reconcile this from the article you've submitted?
Uhmmm by reading the article and the supporting documentation?
Specifically the 1942 Vesting order.
"thoroughly documented. Here, for instance, is a copy of the 1942 Vesting Order naming Bush, among others"
Now can you explain why you say "assets" as in more than1 and the documentation show's 1 SHARE of stock. 1 share of UBC stock, which the Government GAVE BACK AFTER THE WAR!
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markoller6 months, 1 week ago
Is that a Defense of Prescott Bush, that his Nazi dealings were just a matter of profiteering, not ideology? One might argue, however, that before the war, Nazi Germany was libertarian compared to The Soviet Union and Japan. Nor can Prescott Bush be blamed for not predicting things, Hitler never foresaw. Incidentally, Hitler and the Nazi leadership had nothing to do with Kristallnacht or the Reichstag fire.
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SonOfTheMask6 months, 2 weeks ago
FTA: "It is clear that, while the Bush/Walker clan was utterly conscienceless in its dealings with the Nazis, and at least a substantial portion of the Bush family's fortune is in fact built upon that blood-tainted business, there is no evidence that they had any serious ideological ties to them. In a literal sense, of course, it is silly to refer to them as "Nazis," since one had to be a German citizen and join the party to earn the name factually. But even in the generic ideological sense, the evidence of even an affinity, let alone an identification, with the Nazi ideology is very thin."
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crespi6 months, 1 week ago
It can't be that thin of a connection.
Remember when Geroge HW Bush had an actual old-school Nazi on his campaign team and was "forced to let him go?"
This goes back to the Nazis that were brought into the intelligence Community (the CIA has admitted bring Nazi war criminals to America for their "knowledge and connections" to supposedly fight the Russians (who the NAZIS told us were going to attack us, a REAL trustworthy source.)
Prescott Bush was quote close to Allen Dulles who had met and been friends with the torturer and child killer Himmler.
When George HW ran the CIA he was quite connected to an entire 5th column in America that had been set up on purpose AGAINST AMERICAN LAWS.
Look up the Nazi in George HW Bush's campaign. It's fun.
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CactusAnnie6 months, 2 weeks ago
The ideological ties were more present with Joe Kennedy, the Astors and America's Darling at the time, Charles Lindbergh. Somehow that seems to be conveniently ignored when this subject is brought up to castigate the Bush ancestors.
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HannibalBarca6 months, 2 weeks ago
Somehow that seems to be conveniently ignored when this subject is brought up to castigate the Bush ancestors.
While this is true it is also a tactic done by both sides; but one fact remains, Prescott Bush and associates still had dealings with Nazi Germany after Germany declared war on USA, and how long this would have gone on we don't know but they were shut down 8 months after war was declared by the US Gov; but then again Ford, Westinghouse, Standard Oil, IT&T and others dealt with Germany all through the war so nothing new here
Any comments on Albert Crowley and Prescott's wife? Now that is another can of worms
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libsRfunny6 months, 1 week ago
"The ideological ties were more present with Joe Kennedy..."
Democrat darling JFK when a young officer in the Naval Intelligence branch was caught having an affair with a suspected Nazi spy and close, personal friend of Adolph Hitler's, one Inga Arvad.
By way of punishment, he was forced to become a PT boat skipper in the Pacific. You don't go from Naval Intelligence to PT skipper without seriously screwing up, and Kennedy did a lot of serious screwing ;)
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