Bad News on Terror: Suicide Attacks Rise »
Posted by: TimALoftis 3 months, 3 weeks agoAre we winning? Looking at the just-released State Department report on terrorism, the answer appears to be "no."
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DropkickaLib3 months, 3 weeks ago
The title is misleading. It's talking about worldwide terror attacks, not focusing on Iraq or Afghanistan. It focus on Pakistan and other countries. I just wanted to say that before everyone jumped on the Iraq bandwagon.
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injest3 months, 2 weeks ago
The Title misleading? Hell the whole article is "less than informative"
"Most dramatically, there was a 50 percent increase worldwide in suicide bombings last year. All told, 66,995 people were killed or wounded in terror attacks in 2007 (up from 59,327 in 2006 and 39,469 in 2005)"
How many actual attacks? An increase in deaths and wounded can also be due to bigger bombs, blowing them self's up in a more crowded area.
Consider the WTC, In 1993 AQ tried to blast out the support for the towers with the goal of causing the buildings to collapse killing everyone inside. 6 people were killed 1042 injured
2001, same target WTC, same gang AQ, used aircraft as missiles 3000 dead
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
"The Title misleading? Hell the whole article is "less than informative"
--What's complicated? The number of deaths due to terrorism jumped by 50% between 2006 and 2007. You're desperately grasping for reasons to give Bush and Cheney a pat on the back for the success of the so called war on terrorism and that's why you're quibbling over whether the world is more dangerous because of the number of attacks or because bombs are getting more powerful. Do you have any idea how sick that is?
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
"It's talking about worldwide terror attacks"
--What about the title of the article suggests otherwise?
"I just wanted to say that before everyone jumped on the Iraq bandwagon."
--This doesn't change the fact that terrorism worldwide is rising and that Iraq and Afghanistan are still disasters.
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NoWayMan3 months, 2 weeks ago
FTA: "Iraq was the country most heavily hit by suicide bombings, accounting for 45 percent of the attacks and 60 percent of the victims."
the only way those acts of terrorism would be counted as acts of war or otherwise is if Iraq was actually in a civil war.
you can't have it both ways.
so...
is Iraq in a civil war?
or are those attacks terrorist attacks?
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injest3 months, 2 weeks ago
the only way those acts of terrorism would be counted as acts of war or otherwise is if Iraq was actually in a civil war.
you can't have it both ways.
so...
What?
Suicide bombings are a tactic, not an indication of a "civil war" History lesson 101.
WW2 Kamikaze pilots, ever heard of them? If not look it up.
WW2 was not a civil war it was a Frigging war as most are. Confusing tactics for anything other than tactics is a bad idea. The worlds not that simple.
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libsRfunny3 months, 2 weeks ago
Just a couple weeks ago Al Qaeda's No. 2 butthole was whining that Muslims were not embracing and supporting al Qaeda, and there have been no attacks in the U.S. since 9/11. I call that success.
Iraqi forces more and more are policing their own nation, Pakistan is policing its own nation, Afghanistan is mostly policing its own nation. The story says at least half the attacks are Muslim on Muslim, which means it's mostly happening in the Middle East and other Muslim nations.
Beats the hell out of letting the Taliban run Afghanistan, Saddam Iraq and taking attacks here in the U.S.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
"Just a couple weeks ago Al Qaeda's No. 2 butthole was whining that Muslims were not embracing and supporting al Qaeda, and there have been no attacks in the U.S. since 9/11"
--And the anthrax attack and attacks on our allies are just collateral damage so they don't count as attacks on the US, naturally. But attacks on our military abroad DO count as attacks on the US unless they're in Iraq. Now I"m really confused... ;-(
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dissent3 months, 3 weeks ago
how can terrorism ever be defeated? terrorism is the manifestation of an individual's emotion or collection of emotions. anger, hatred, frustration, desperation and vengeance are the first few i can think of. they fester inside the human heart. they can't be defeated with soldiers, bombs and guns. logically, that can only breed more of the same. war, death, destruction and humiliation just feeds more anger, hatred, frustration, desperation and vengeance. terrorism can only be defeated by taking away the reasons that cause anger, hatred, frustration, desperation and vengeance. my guess is we really don't want to. it just doesn't fit in with our plans.
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DanmLiberals3 months, 3 weeks ago
A lot of the time the people fighting the war against us are hired to do so. Most of these people have nothing and are recruited through Muslims that preach the same stuff reverend Wrong says which is God damn America. When your poor and you dont have a pot to ****** in, shooting Americans and causing Chaos becomes a job.
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mesodude3 months, 2 weeks ago
--WOW...I can't believe it. DanmLiberals is channelling Barack Obama.
"When your poor and you dont have a pot to ****** in, shooting Americans and causing Chaos becomes a job."
""It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or anti-pathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
--So which of these is more "despicable"?
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dissent3 months, 2 weeks ago
i don't see them trying to make us muslims. but i do see us trying to make them americans. for starters, we're over there spreading "freedom & democracy", making 4 million of them homeless, (they're the ones with no hope of ever becoming americans), God only knows how many of them dead, (same as before), oh, and to add insult to injury.... building disneyland!!! which seems to be a lot more important than water, electricity, a roof over their heads, healthcare, employment, security and peace
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newbie04203 months, 3 weeks ago
"- Algeria and Thailand also saw big increases in the number of terror victims.
"Around the globe people are getting increasingly efficient at killing other people," said Russ Travers of the National Counterterrorism Center, which compiled the data for the report. One factor contributing the increased lethality of terror attacks: increased use of backpacks by suicide bombers that are easier to sneak into crowded areas."
Wow, whoever posted and titled this article sure is trying to push some agenda....
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HMMace3 months, 3 weeks ago
IT SEEMS WE MUST START TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN JUST WHAT KIND OF ANIMALS THESE MUSLIMS ARE, AND PUT SOME HATE IN THEM FOR MUSLIMS,, TIT FOR TAT--SO TO SPEAK
THEN--WHEN DO WE START TO KILL MUSLIMS??
MAYBE WHEN OUR POLITICIANS GET SOME BACK BONE..??
WHAT WE SHOULD DO -IS JUST MAKE IRAQ OUR 51ST STATE..
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dissent3 months, 3 weeks ago
sure, hmmace, teach our children, they can teach their children, and their children can teach their children..... to hate. that should fix it :|
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DanmLiberals3 months, 3 weeks ago
MAce your an idiot. how did you even find this website with that monkey brain of yours?
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tkyrchncs3 months, 2 weeks ago
Mace you are a bloodthirsty fool. You would turn your children into the thing you despise. Our politicians all could do with a little less bone a little more brain and heart. We are in debt up to our necks just to have a war in Iraq. How in the world could we afford to keep it as a state of our Union, assuming you could get them to petition for that--why don't you head on over there and take that on as your little personal mission? Perhaps we would become a more tolerant society if we had a predominantly Muslim star on our flag.
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flyonthewallzz3 months, 2 weeks ago
Putting out fire with gasoline.
I would have negged the comment.
Just did not feel like getting my finger dirty.
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LARK3 months, 2 weeks ago
What about Tibetan rioters who hurt their innocent neighbors? What about rioters who injured the girl who carried the torch? Are these not beasts? And the US supports their head and calls him 'holy'! (holy? goosebumps on my skin!) What about people who make sliding villification of all Chinese people with the intention to cause trouble in China and hurt Chinese people who had hitherto been silent and peaceful with a naive dream that all people in the world be like brothers and sisters?
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unome23 months, 3 weeks ago
It's all terrorism. War is terrorism. Al Qaeda, The CIA, Blackwater are all terrorist organization, even the American military, when led by evil profit driven people, is a terrorist organization. The deliberate killing of innocent civilians and forcefully occupying another country's land is terrorism. It doesn't matter if it's a suicide bomb or an American rocket blasting through your loved ones, it is all terrorism.
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walden33 months, 2 weeks ago
I disagree that war and terrorism are the same. Some may bicker, but I see war as the means to achieve an end by the use of force, certain rule are supposed to apply. The intent is to take land, change leadership or repel an enemy. Terrorism is more a political goal through the use of force. The intent is to terrorize. War is the means to the end. Terror is the end itself. Does that make sense.
No doubt though that the US government does engage in terrorism by funding terrorist organizations or black ops.
Bombing a restaurant, funeral or wedding is most assuredly a terrorist act. Using white phosphorous bombs is a terrorist act. Laying waste to a city, Falluja, is a terrorist act.
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DropkickaLib3 months, 2 weeks ago
You always come out of nowhere and post something completely nutty and off the wall. War isn't terrorism and the U.S. military isn't a terrorist organization. I guess it's cool of a terrorist fires an RPG from a house, but then a U.S. missile has to take it out, we are the terrorists.
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Dionys3 months, 2 weeks ago
" War isn't terrorism and the U.S. military isn't a terrorist organization."
No?
Let's see. A few under 20 militant terrorists, nearly all carrying Saudi Arabian passports, fly planes into buildings as weapons and kill close to 4000 Americans to push across their personal agenda.
A few under/over 150,000 (or double that, I suppose if you include private contractors) militant troops, nearly all carrying American passports, invade a country based on falsified evidence and kill at least 600,000 Iraqis to push across their leader's personal agenda.
The latter seems a little more terrifying to me. But both actions are certainly the actions of terroists.
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nikkibabe3 months, 2 weeks ago
If Americans have been brain washed that Iraq invasion is a war on terror, wake up. Iraq war is really about oil and war profiteering. Everyone in the Bush Administration from top to bottom including their business partners have been profiting from Iraq.
The real culprit of 9/11 is safe in Pakistan. His father has been a major business partner of Bush family.
Get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TrueProgressive3 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey nikki, getting real is the last thing regressives want to experience. Swimming around in their delusion laced cesspool is far more comforting to them than is facing life as it really happens.
Walden: Your distinguishing war from terrorism may have some semantical value, but it's semantics just the same. Conquest can be achieved through political as well as military means. Terrorism can be a war strategy, a very successful one at that. The most famous instance, the two atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Truman's aim was to terrorize the Japanese into understanding what their country faced if they did not immediately surrender. It worked. (The firebombings of Dresden and Hamburg were also meant to break the German peoples' will, i.e., terrorize them.)
And finally, HMMoron: We are killing Islamics, thousands of them. We've been doing it for the past 5 years. It's called monkey brained Bush's big criminal enterprise. That's why the Moslem world hates us so much.
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TrueProgressive3 months, 2 weeks ago
Dropkick: Someone must have drop kicked your head when you were young. Why don't you ask the Iraqis who've lost loved one to American troops if they feel terrorized, if they believe the US military is a terrorist organization. And while we're at it, what are you doing here in the safety and comfort of the good 'ol US of A while others are fighting and dying for a cause, whatever that may be, that you endorse? We should have "emptied the city;" a missile to "take it out." Ooooh, you talk real tough. But just like the monkey brained degenerate in chief, when the bullets start flying, you dive under your bed and cuddle your little teddy. So tell us dropkick, why didn't you volunteer to fight for what you so vehemetly believe in, and makes you so eager to impugn others who don't agree? Are you really the coward your posts make you appear to be?
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DropkickaLib3 months, 2 weeks ago
Someone should give you a swift kick in the a$$ right now and knock some sense into your Libtard skull. Why don't you ask the dead Kurds and Shiites if they miss Saddam? When the bullets start flying, I can count on you to keep biting the pillow like you always do. Why don't you volunteer with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard if you hate the American soliders so much? Clearly, you are a coward who bravely challenges me across the Internet, safely housed in your Mom's basement. Are you really the unemployed stoner you appear to be?
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walden33 months, 2 weeks ago
Why don't we ask the living?
"According to this poll commissioned by the BBC, ABC and NHK to assess the effects of the US military's surge strategy, 70 percent of Iraqis believe the strategy has made Iraq's security situation worse. The poll finds 47 percent of Iraqis want US-led forces to leave Iraq immediately and 34 percent want the troops to leave when the security situation improves. The results of the survey indicate the surge has hampered conditions for political dialogue, reconstruction and economic development and has not improved security."
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/ira...
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dissent3 months, 2 weeks ago
i really have to question the sincerity of your supposed concern for kurds and shia. based on everything you have ever said on these threads your care for them is a possibility that seems highly unlikely. besides, where is your concern for the 4 million iraqi refugees we've created today? where is your concern for the countless dead that wouldn't have died otherwise if it wasn't for us?...... [crickets] :|
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TrueProgressive3 months, 2 weeks ago
Walden: I understand, and should watch it. But I've never felt the degree of utter loathing for a president that I feel toward Bush. That such an unabashed coward would so blithely send thousands of people to their own deaths and to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of INNOCENTS makes him a degenerate in the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
The hypocrisy of people like dropkick enrages me. They talk real tough when OTHERS, a half a world away, are doing the fighting and dying. Guys (and I'm assuming here) like dropkick are all for war, so long as others are paying the price. Here, dropkick's hypocrisy really stinks since the Army will take just about any body that's breathing and standing on its own. Would dropkick and others like him be talking as tough if they received a "Greetings from the President" letter? Or would he be like Bush and run and hide when his call to duty arrived?
Did you sink my comment BTW?
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DropkickaLib3 months, 2 weeks ago
Your hypocricy doesn't enrage me. I've come to expect your brand of treason from the Left. I actually am beyond military age, much as you are too old to behave in such a juvenile manner. Why don't you stick to sniffing the crotches of Hillary Clinton's pantsuits and leave the public policy decisions to those of us who understand the issues?
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newbie04203 months, 2 weeks ago
"But I've never felt the degree of utter loathing for a president that I feel toward Bush."
That loathing is not only clouding your judgement it is helping you reach conclusions you wouldn't otherwise make.
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walden33 months, 2 weeks ago
No I didn't neg your comment. If you click on the date and time stamp of a comment you can see who did.
I too get frustrated at times and lose my cool. We progressives have to behave better than the Republicans though. Let's win through argument, logic and being polite.
I too think this administration has been a disaster for our country. I think he stole two elections. I think our rights are being destroyed. I'm not sure we can pull out of it.
We were once the shining city on a hill, now we can barely afford a candle.
I really fear for our future. I don't think anything is outside the range of possibilities.
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TrueProgressive3 months, 2 weeks ago
Dropkick, you spend alot of time polluting Propeller. What do you do for a living? And you still haven't really answered my question, why aren't you fighting in Iraq? "Sniffing the crotches of Hillary Clinton's pantsuits" doesn't cut it. The Army's so stretched these days that it's accepting robbers, rapists, and child molesters. You're at least that high on the social ladder, or are you? The Army has also raised it's age limits. The fact is that you haven't exchanged your little boy GI Joe costume for a real soldier's clothing, pay and danger because, like the president, you're a coward. Just face and accept it. You'll feel better.
And newbie, no. That's a ploy of you regressives to try impugn the justifiable loathing of what this country has become as delusional. My loathing of Bush is grounded in complete objectivity and doesn't cloud my judgment. My emotions give me the impetus and drive to oppose what I and millions of others see as right wing rot here.
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DropkickaLib3 months, 2 weeks ago
I pimp your sister out. Why are you posting while you're stoned? I'm sure that you've never seen me at one of your NAMBLA meetings, so I'm definitely not a child molester.
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TrueProgressive3 months, 2 weeks ago
If you pimp my sister out, then you're clearly on welfare and food stamps. And while your at it, you should let that little girl out of your basement before she turns 40.
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rushran3 months, 2 weeks ago
GEE I THOUGHT WITH ALL THE EXTRA TROOPS THIS WAS ON THE DECLINE I GUESS THIS IS ANOTHER BUSHES MISSION ACCOMPLISH ACCOMPLISHMENT
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joeblowe3 months, 2 weeks ago
Well, there's at least ONE thing we can say for sure about suicide bombers: there are NO repeat offenders.
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