Depleted Uranium has Destroyed the Genetic Future of Iraq »
Posted By rumple4skin 5 months, 3 weeks ago in NewsWarning: graphic picture of a child whose parents were exposed to depleted uranium. The use of depleted uranium munitions by the U.S. military may lead to a death toll far higher than that from the nuclear bombs dropped at the end of World War II. More than 35 percent (251,000) of U.S. Gulf War veterans are dead or on permanent medical disability,
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rumple4skin5 months, 3 weeks ago
Here is another source regarding the problem using artillery shells that contain depleted uranium.
http://infowars.net/articles/may2008/300508Fall...
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bubba25 months, 3 weeks ago
This is the same DU that 'our' government says is 'safe'.
The Bush administration has basically destroyed the country of Iraq.
The mortality rate of Iraqi children under the age of 5 is the HIGHEST in the history of the country. DU is likely one of the leading contributors to those deaths, along with little to no clean water, sanitation, or medical care.
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ETproductions5 months, 3 weeks ago
There was never any military or rational geopolitical reason to invade and occupy Iraq to begin with. We now know it was all part of some idiotic NeoCon fantasy that by toppling Saddam, democracy would instantly erupt in Iraq and the rest of the monarchies and dictatorships in the Middle East would crumble as they viewed the splendor of Iraqi democracy.
Scott McClellan shed light on Bush's thinking.
In Iraq, McClellan added, Bush saw "his opportunity to create a legacy of greatness," something McClellan said Bush has said he believes is only available to wartime presidents. http://www.ajc.com/meetro/content/news/stories/...
So to answer your question, NO! There is no legitimate reason for US to be such barbarians.
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gamahuche5 months, 3 weeks ago
Let's hope he's busy doing something much more useful like tweeking his whiskers or changing his ghastly underwear.
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Will13135 months, 3 weeks ago
well they are becoming less.. i only got 2 negs so far..
you guys are a disappearing breed.. thank God..
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cowboygrandpa5 months, 3 weeks ago
We have met the enemy and it is us.
We have exported a terror that we would have annihilated, another nation for doing to us.
War in and of itself is disgusting enough. When the after effects are so devastating. Why would our "government" allow this.
Take a look at what the Bible says about what would happen to Iraq. It is said it would become a waste land. Bush is doing his best to fulfill that prophecy.
There are also many warnings about what will take place.
I'll bet Bush thinks he is doing Gods' will. So he probably thinks it is a good thing.
I wonder if he realizes that many nations were used to do Gods' will in the old testament including Egypt. Things didn't turn out so well for them when the Red Sea swallowed their armies' did it.
The use of nuclear material against civilians who have not attacked us is beyond reprehensible. Perhaps if GW were a real man he would see the murder of innocent women and children for the sick act that it is.
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gamahuche5 months, 3 weeks ago
"depleted uranium"
The name says it all.
And what about "cluster bombs"? Those pretty little bomblets that lay around looking pretty until some adventurous child picks one up and kboom.
Just one more chilling evidence if how the US has taken leave of its senses and will inevitably, tragically, reap what it sows.
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ningyo5 months, 3 weeks ago
the use of this picture is just another example of the hard anti-american left using unfortunate people they care nothing about to further their socialist agenda..this is a baby born with a horrible cleft which occurs millions of times a year for no reason other than genetics and bad medical care..my cousin was born here in the NE in 1964 with webbed hands that had nothing to do with DU..sometimes it happens..this is a sick desperate post of a sick desperate left wing-nut loser trying to fix blame where no connection exists
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Candida5 months, 3 weeks ago
Yes, it happens everywhere. It just happens more often in Iraq than in other places.
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cowboygrandpa5 months, 3 weeks ago
ningyo:
Feel free to go over there and investigate it yourself. In fact take a geiger counter with you. You may be surprised.
Seems to me you think Fox news is fair and balanced, that tells me you are unbalanced. No Fox news does not report the news as it is. They put their neocon spin on it.
But of course it is not your family over there right? I have nephews serving over there. I wonder now if they will come home sick? Or if it will take years to show up like Agent Orange did from Nam.
Please open your eyes the history is repeating itself.
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libsRfunny5 months, 3 weeks ago
You're sounding pretty unbalanced, per usual, gramps. daily KOS has been caught before pushing all kinds of fake BS, such as "soldiers" claiming to be anything but what they really were - lying bastards.
Depleted uranium was used against Saddam's tanks and other armored vehicles. That was several years ago. If your alleged nephews serving over there had anything to worry about, there would have been a wave of soldiers already stricken long years ago, but that never happened.
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cowboygrandpa5 months, 3 weeks ago
Wish you could meet my alleged nephews. You might think twice before questioning their salt.
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cowboygrandpa5 months, 3 weeks ago
libsRfunny:
The one who is unbalanced is you. But so many people already know that. Your reputation precedes you.
As far as fake soldiers. Hmmmmmmm? Bush didn't finish his duty. He only served in the Texas Air National Guard. But hey I guess that was to rough on him huh? Limbaugh who likes to spout off. How many deferments? Cheney how many deferments?
Your heroes are like you. All mouth and no go.
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Niimki5 months, 3 weeks ago
Obviously you haven't spent much time around a VA hospital and seen the amount of problems vets from the first Gulf War have had from the various things they were exposed to. Although it is hard to point directly at any one thing, many of the symptoms point towards those similar to radioactive exposure.
http://www.iicph.org/docs/du_for_europe_nov_200...
http://www.wise-uranium.org/dgvd.html
maybe you wouldn't think it was safe if you were around some of it yourself. From some personal experience, it is not loved by those that have had to deal with it in their loved ones or their families. But we know how it is for your side of things....protect what you consider the American way of life at all costs...including the huge loss of the very humanity you say you are protecting.
I posted some more general scientific fact for you here. Of course I am not sure why I bother. Nothing changes any of your viewpoints. Ever. How pathetic.
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raza95 months, 3 weeks ago
"...there would have been a wave of soldiers already stricken long years ago, but that never happened."
Did ya forget about the Gulf War Syndrome from the 90's, also associated with DU? Oh that's right, the Pentagon says it never existed, but there are plenty of vets that say otherwise.
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tkyrchncs5 months, 3 weeks ago
While nobody can argue that radioactivity is a positive aspect of projectile ammunition, it is unlikely and completely unprovable that the cleft palate shown in the article is the result of anyone's exposure to DU. There will be elevated radiation levels at the location of the rounds. The significant danger of this ammo is particulate inhalation, which is a problem immediately after impact. Enriched uranium, the product which yields depleted uranium and is used in reactors, is significantly less radioactive that the radium watch dials so popular before LED technology. This article overestimates the danger significantly, I'm afraid. Here's the science from the Department of Energy; any here with science or math abilities can figure it out from here:
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/purl.cover....
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tkyrchncs5 months, 3 weeks ago
This is not to be construed in any way as support for any of our activities in Iraq or anywhere in the Near East. I am in complete opposition to expending even one more round of American ammo there for any reason other than the defense of our embassies.
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BravoSierra5 months, 3 weeks ago
Two researchers at Wright-Patterson AFB's department of toxicology have concluded that there is evidence that DU accumulates in the body and is capable of creating genetic damage. Toxicology and Industrial Health, Vol. 17, No. 5-10, 180-191 (2001)
Furthermore, a case control study of 15,000 Gulf War vets and 15,000 non-Gulf War soldiers who were not deployed to Iraq performed by Dr. H.Kang showed that Gulf War vets were about 2 time more likely to have children with birth defects. The paper was published in the Annals of Epidemiology.
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BravoSierra5 months, 3 weeks ago
The VA has also found several links with illnesses and something going on the in the combat zone. The studies that show DU is 'lower than background' are suspect based on their methods and unwarranted leaps of inference from lab studies. The story sited is extreme but the department of energy's conclusions are also bogus. Go read the military's own research and you find plenty of reason to suspect the DU is a problem
http://www1.va.gov/gulfwar/docs/GulfWarNov03.pdf
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BravoSierra5 months, 3 weeks ago
They are also finding traces of U236 in some depleted uranium samples. This means the 60% less than purified uranium figure is probably suspect in these cases. Basically, the samples of DU and uranium used for the "comparisons" are probably suspect.
The military has evidence that there is a risk. They find higher amounts of uranium in the urine of soldiers sent to Iraq. They just can't quantify how much additional damage it is causing. Dr. Kang's study has been challenged on picky issues of methods but using 15,000 subjects in each group means the margin of sampling error was probably about half a percent. It looks like being in a combat zone increases your absorbing of uranium and makes you twice as likely to have a child with a birth defect. They just haven't isolated DU as the culprit but it is a likely suspect.
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HMMace5 months, 3 weeks ago
WOW--Just think of our soldiers all be deformed from handling that ammo..and for all those years too...
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Amazing15 months, 3 weeks ago
If there is even a suggestion that DU or any other substance is harmful in the long term, its use should be immediately terminated. No ifs, ands, or buts. And then complete studies should be done. To do anything less in this situtation is inhumane, callous and just plain wrong.
That there is even a discussion on whether or not this practice of using DU should continue, indicates how far our government and the current administration have left any kind of moral compass in the dust.
All is for profit, manipulation, and power. And humanity be damned.
I am not a scientist. But I am a human. And if this were happening here, I would want it to stop immediately while the studies were done. And I imagine the Iraqis would like that as well. Do unto others....
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quackpot5 months, 3 weeks ago
Depleted uranium is certainly not good, but the child in the photo did NOT develop this birth defect from depleted uranium.
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