Bob Herbert says this isn't the Obama he thought he knew »
Posted By pc25 3 months ago in NewsLet's start off by acknowledging that Bob Herbert is as likely to vote against Barack Obama as ââ;¬Â¦ Michelle Obama. However, the bloom has definitely fallen off of the rose with the New York Times columnist, and he argues that Obama may have taken his supporters on the Left too much for granted.
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pc253 months ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/08/opinion/08her...
from the original NYT article
"In one of the numbers from "Fiddler on the Roof," Tevye sings, with a mixture of emotions: "We haven't got the man ... we had when we began."
So there he was in Zanesville, Ohio, pandering to evangelicals........And there he was, in the midst of an election campaign in which the makeup of the Supreme Court is as important as it has ever been, agreeing with Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas that the death penalty could be imposed for crimes other than murder......There has been a reluctance among blacks to openly criticize Senator Obama, the first black candidate with a real shot at the presidency. But behind the scenes, there is discontent among African-Americans, as well, over Mr. Obama's move away from progressive issues, including his support of the Supreme Court's decision affirming the constitutional right of individuals to bear arms.
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pc253 months ago
"What's he doing?" is the most common question heard recently from Obama supporters.
For one thing, he's taking his base for granted, apparently believing that such stalwart supporters as blacks, progressives and pumped-up younger voters will be with him no matter what. A taste of the backlash this can produce erupted on the candidate's own Web site.
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pc253 months ago
D-Day: Hey, quit your blubberin'. When I get through with this baby you won't even recognize it.
Otter: Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You f...ed up - you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help.
Flounder: [crying] That's easy for you to say! What am I going to tell Fred?
Otter: I'll tell you what. We'll tell Fred you were doing a great job taking care of his car, but you parked it out back last night and in the morning, it was gone. We report it to the police, D-Day takes care of the wreck, the insurance company buys your brother a new car.
Flounder: Will that work?
Otter: Hey, it's gotta work better than the truth.
Bluto: [thrusting six-pack into Flounder's hands] My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
Otter: Better listen to him, Flounder, he's in pre-med.
D-Day: [firing up blow-torch] There you go now, just leave everything to me.
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aniokly3 months ago
Of course Herbert will still vote for Sen Obama, but Hardcore Feminists will not, nor will blue collar workers, a large percentage of Jewish voters, and even some independents if he votes for the FISA bill. He has no core values so he can slip in and out of support for various issues as easily as changing socks. He has turned on the very people that gave him the nomination. I am not really certain, but can't some of those delegates, the Superdelegates, still change their minds at the Convention? He is so sure of himself I don't think he understands that they endorsed him before he decided to run for President Bush's third term.
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Klarissa3 months ago
The super delegates and regular delegates may change their mind.
173 - days in the senate and he thinks he's ready to be president??
It may be Hillary yet.
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Dionys3 months ago
"He has no core values so he can slip in and out of support for various issues as easily as changing socks."
Well then I guess he can count on the Republican vote in droves.
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icono13 months ago
If OBama doesn't watch it one day he will start talking Reagan-nomics and 'Trickle Down' for the economy.
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nostalgia3 months ago
The erudite, intellectual Bob Herbert duped by a politician! You gotta love it!
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CRYMTYPHON3 months ago
This isn't the Bob Herbert I knew.
Actual, I don't recall the guy but he doesn't seem memorable so I might have just forgotten.
But Herbert expresses very well how disapointment with this week's Obama has translated into the dramatic loss of support from the left.
Except Obama isn't losing support from the left.
He has been making inroads on the right, which could look like losing the left if you squint with one eye and avoid actual poll numbers.
There is some possibility that Obama may be hurt by his continued flip-flops on where he will accept the nomination. He keeps having to move to a bigger stadium, which I think is just tacky.
McCain has announced he will accept HIS nomination at a quiet little cheese-and-wine brunch and Bush is especialy invited to be busy elsewhere that day.
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CRYMTYPHON3 months ago
Moveon.org. the DailyKos and the Huffington Post
are all supporting Obama, last I heard.
Obama's support among democrats and general lefties is growing, last I heard.
However, as they do not practice the dreary self-abuse of praising their leaders, they all feel free to rip right in when they think Obama is wrong.
That would seem dangerous rebellion to Rovians, I suppose.
It is part of the business where we pulled this guy from the crowd; he wasn't chosen by the establishment. His contributions from independent, small donors are a new record.
We chose him; we own him. Damn right we will tell him how to steer.
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CRYMTYPHON3 months ago
Mr. Crymtyphon to you, please. I prefer to keep this on a formal basis.
As for Obama's little secret meetings, well, those are secret.
I CAN reveal that the next white house dog will be a german shepherd. A shepherd will represent a fierce determination, yet be friendly with the kids.
And it will certainly be a great improvment over the dog currently in the white house.
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HOUSEMD3 months ago
Bob Herbert says this isn't the Obama he thought he knew
Bunch of us are feeling that one Bob.
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