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Though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret. Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as "not like us" is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.

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Will13132 months ago

Well no he's not like me.. but then again.. I'm probably not qualified to be president.. so that's a good thing...

and he's not like Palin.. because he hasn't gotten in the the cesspool and swam with HER..

hateful bigoted woman... Ann Coulter without the black dress..
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  UnusualSuspect2 months ago
  
  The Republicans are losing the American people with their lousy understanding of the economic situation that now grips our nation, they're probably not getting in the donations they need to do a fair and balanced fight against Obama (hence the reason they're leaving Michigan; I see more states they'll be leaving soon), and they're falling even further behind in the polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
  
  Is it any wonder that the McCain campaign, thru Ms Palin, is starting this smear?
  
  What's their slogan? "Country First" Ha..."Winning first" is more like it...
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      Ratskii2 months ago
      
      DL,
      
      Sigh, usual ignorant ranting. CRA loans are not what caused the economic melt down. They have a better record for repayment than most of the other mortgage loans out there.
      
      I have no idea whether or not Palin or you are racist, but your claim that the democratic party is racist ignores history since 1948 (look up what Truman and Humphrey did to make civil rights for minorities one of the cornerstones of the democratic party). If you don't believe that white voting for McCain are necessarily racist (and I don't), how can you make the claim that blacks voting for Obama are racist? Do you really believe that you can isolate someone elses motives that way when they make no statements indicating racism?
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Try again. That one is getting worn out. You are going on the lies that Raines made to cover up what was happening. Why did the Government have to bail out them if there was no problem. The rest of the banking industry was frogged marched down the path of sub prime loans by the CRA. What happened when Clinton and Bush asked for Reforms? Democrats were outraged that the Clinton and the Republicans would attack their precious GSE's that were the compassionate part of finance.
        
        All of those sub prime loans that went into foreclosure caused the bubble to housing price to burst. Too many extra homes on the market after the prices went up way too fast because of the extra homes being sold under CRA. Down came the house of cards that the Democrats caused to be built. 30% plus off of ALL mortgages worth on the papers that are backed by the loans. Crash. Bankrupt banks since their net worth in real estate mortgages took that hit. Money gone.
        
        http://mysite.verizon.net/vodkajim/housingbubble/
        
        Thanks Democrats.
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        miklkit1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        BU**SH**!! Nobody frog marched anyone anywhere. You republicons went down that path of your own free will. You were pushing those sub prime rates as hard as you could. I was getting 2 - 6 letters a day for a while there trying to get me into that cesspool. They've almost stopped now. There are whole blocks of houses out there that are empty. 2 stories with swimming pools. Those aren't CRA's. Good people took those loans because the banks said it was ok. Now all of that trust is gone.
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        OK what do you call it when an organization that creates mortgages has to have a high enough CRA rating if they want to expand? In an industry where it is expand or die.
        
        What do you call that? Coercion, big pressure, do it or else. etc.
        
        Take your pick and place it in place of frog marched. The pressure was to give out some bad loans as a cost of doing business in order to expand. The foreclosures they were able to handle. The problem of the housing cost bubble bursting from it is what brought the house of card down. On the books a mortgage is worth the resale price of the property. 30% drop and that much effective money is gone from the institution holding the loans. It was not the foreclosures that were the problem but the effect they had on house prices.
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Your blaming Democrats for the problem is ludicrous. The problem started when people ( Republican and Democrat) wanted to get rich in the housing bubble and the PRESENT CEOs of the lending industry let them have unsecured loans on houses they could not afford. People speculating on the market without secure loans such as those that borrowed on their home by equity line loans. I could not tell you how many solicitations I get in the mail even today for easy loans. "You have been approved for a loan for $80,000. Sign here"
        The 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley bill was pushed through by Senate Financial Chairman Phil Gramm (McCain's financial adviser now) and it was passed by a vote of 90 to 8 in the senate. Now who is at fault for the bill? The banking lobbyist that has paid every senator both Dem. or Rep. with their hand out. That is why we need to insist on removing all lobbyist from Washington including Rick Davis and Phil Gramm who are working for McCain and yes those also working for Obama if they have their hands in lobbyist's pockets.
        I feel that another reason for the problem is where people bought homes they could afford at the time and the sharp increase in the cost of living, including fuel, destroyed the family budget and made the home unaffordable.
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        "The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Texas Republican Phil Gramm, himself collected more than $1.5 million in cash from the three industries during the last five years: $496,610 from the insurance industry, $760,404 from the securities industry and $407,956 from banks."
        http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/nov1999/bank-n01...
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      sieben131 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      Couldn't be that blacks know that he is the most qualified ?????????????
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        miklkit1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Yeah right. She couldn't run a village without hiring a manager to run it for her, and still ran up a $22 million debt. Then she lied about the bridge to nowhere. Oh. Where is the money for that bridge to nowhere that pain was for in 2005,2006,and 2007? Pain kept it! But she is still building the road from nowhere to that non existant bridge to nowhere......
        Then there is Troopergate. It's not about that Trooper anymore, it's about obeying the law. Which Pain is not doing.
        And how about "Sambo beat the beech"? Great record to stand on. There goes the non racist vote.......
        Then there is the witch hunting........
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        gamahuche1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        But I don't see HIM blushing with shame.
        Nor is he the gibberer.
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        dunkirk1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        ROFLMAO, where or where are your links?? Debunked?? The voices in your head dont count as proof. Tina Fay does a great impresion of Palin especially , Well Im not going to asnwer that question instead Im going to talk about only the things Ive been able to memorize since the last debacle with Katie Couric.
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        Klarissa1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Obama can't act as president without Biden right beside him
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      automan9091 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      Excellent point damnliberals. The entire Democratic party is based on race.
      Blacks are voting for Obama just because he has some black in him.
      They don't care about his policies or plans for america. They don't care about his poor choices in friends and mentors.
      Racism has nothing to do with him having friends like Ayres and Wright.
      They are poor choices in his life that show his poor judgment.
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        GWHayduke1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        I dont believe I'ver ever read anything more ignorant in my life.
        
        And I just finished damn liberals' post as well.
        
        God help this Confederacy of Dunces.
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      Leemck021 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      DammLiberals, upscale areas have auctions and foreclosures in abundance. I don't think poor Black's caused that. The prime and sub-prime are effected; we see AIG and big banks going down, that's not poor Black's making losing managerial decisions there either. The SEC, Fed and the companies rating these companies, who have far more to do with it than poor Black's, these let the market down. Then it is regulation; arguably, since the Newt's 'Conservative Revolution', 'Reclaiming America' or the 'Contract on America' that allowed the long reign of Rubber Stamped congressional non-oversight that I would claim to cause the nation's economic woes. One more, an ill conceived war that was poorly executed for many years. Don't get amnesia or look for the old stand-by 'the Blacks done it', or you will foolishly vote for more of the same when we need change. Make sure you aren't the problem, as the Europeans asked "how can 360 million people be so stupid" (putting the likes of 'W' as the Executive for the most powerful office on the planet, with a possible Palin follow up).
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  Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
  
  The one swimming in the cesspool is Obama.
  
  Friends with Rezco when he was in Chicago before going to Harvard.
  After Harvard he hired into the firm that Rezco used.
  Mysteriously all opposition running against Obama in his first election were declared ineligible by not having enough signatures. Something anyone running makes sure they have an excess of.
  Kickoff fund raiser at Bill Ayres house.
  Served with Ayres on several boards one of which went missing $110 million.
  Went to Ayres house on multiple occasions after his feelings that he only wished he had set off more bombs was shown on TV and in the newspapers there.
  Fought against the bipartisan effort to stop Chicago corruption.
  Voted against born alive babies from botched abortions being kept alive. Just toss them in the garbage alive.
  Went to a church and had the pastor as a friend and mentor that is very anti America and racist.
  Got a sweetheart deal on his house brokered by Rezco.
  Wrote letters to government officials for Rezco.
  Voted present almost 130 times.
  Stood silent in the senate when the Republicans tried to get better oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.
  
  You are known by the company you keep and your actions. Looks like a cesspool to me. When I was young the farm I lived on had one so I know first hand what a cesspool is. He has that odor.
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    lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
    
    Endo
    Anyone can make false statement without proof but it's called slander. If you have proof of this then present it. If it's from some neo-con site like Limbaugh or Coulter then don't bother because it's a lie.
    You chose to believe some rumors from an undetermined source but you refuse to believe that Bush lied to the American people.
    Obama voted present? At least he was there. McCain doesn't even bother to show up unless he can get in front of a camera. ROFLMAO
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      Candida1 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      Voting present may be the most honorable thing to do when a bill contains a lot of different provisions, some good, some bad, for example when a bill providing funding for the troops contains a lot of "pork," or when a bill regulating banks contains insufficient enforcement mechanisms. It's a balancing act to decide whether the good outweighs the bad, and sometimes they are equal.
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      Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      Rumours????
      These are all well documented things. Which ones are you challenging?
      
      Rezco tried to hire him before he went to Harvard.
      When it was posted about his opposition being disqualified a while back the only thing liberals could say was it was his oppositions fault for not getting more signatures.
      Some are trying to say that it was not a fund raiser at Ayres house. Is that it. It was just a party? Big difference.
      On and on.
      
      Then you accuse Bush of lying. Prove it. First there was the accusations that it was about WMDs. Lately it has changed to a few words about nuclear material possibly being bought. You liberals found the one was a lie so you keep the same charge and go to a different accusation of a lie. That one is just as false. Have to keep saying he lied. I bet you don't even know who made the first accusation to begin with that you liberals picked up that mantra from. The first person lies and everybody swears to it. Pathetic.
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    FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
    
    Endo,
    
    Don't forget his top economic advisor, Franklin Raines who managed to rake in 90 million from the Fannie and Freddie deal...
    
    It seems no liberal will address these accusations...They're more concerned about getting someone with a pulse into power with absolutely no experience, no resume to speak of, only because he's ANYBODY but Bush....
    
    The clowns who are voting for him don't even know what "Change" he speaks of....They can't see past their seething hate for Bush to recognize an imbecile like Obama when they see one....
    
    So instead, the want to put this country in chaos by voting for someone like Osama...
    
    I don't get it...Hek, even Biden believed that Osama wasn't ready for prime-time and insisted that he would run as McCain's VP if asked....
    
    What does that tell the libs when even their own VP thinks Osama is worthless and McCain makes more sense?
    
    And when has Obama or Biden ever stood up to ANYBODY within their own party regarding corruption ? We've got Dodd, Johnson, Raines, Franks, Paulson that need to go because of their greed and corruption....Who do you think is going to do that ? Osama ? LMAO !!!
    
    Pluh-Eaze !! He's part of the problem....
    
    McCain and Palin both have records of standing up to the theivery that goes on in DC and in their own states...And they're not afraid to take on their own....
    
    Obama and Biden are going to be 4 more years of Bush........more than you think and certainly moreso than McCain and Palin are....
    
    Bush spent like crazy and Osama's spending proposal is close to a trillion....But...wait a minute..I thought you libs were tired of all the governmental spending? A trillion dollars ? On what ? And do you REALLY think he's going to be able to get all the money he needs from ONLY taxing the rich ? Do ya ?
    
    You guys are really as dumb as you look......
    
    Look beyond the fluff and rock star status and you will find an empty shell.....Someone who so deadset on obtaining power that he'll lie to achieve it...
    
    And so many of you libs have had the wool pulled over your eyes with this clown, but again, don't care because you want "anybody but Bush"
    
    Careful for what you wish for.....Cuba wanted "Change" too and they ended up with Castro....
    
    You do the math....
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      NoWayMan1 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      more bullsh*t from FSU.
      
      Franklin Raines is not and has never been an adviser in any way, shape or form for the Obama campaign.
      
      That ridiculous accusation has already been debunked.
      
      And since you don't even know that simple fact, why would anyone read the rest of your nonsense?
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Rick Davis and Phil Gramm who are two of the biggest crooks are McCain's financial advisers now and they won't resign.
        Before pushing for the 1999 financial deregulation bill "The chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Texas Republican Phil Gramm, himself collected more than $1.5 million in cash from the three industries during the last five years: $496,610 from the insurance industry, $760,404 from the securities industry and $407,956 from banks."
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        Klarissa1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        For the year 2008 only contributions to Democrats:
        
        Insurance donations to democrats: $15,977,057
        Commercial banks: $13,112,259
        casinos, gambling.$7,856,191
        Education: $26,483,437
        health professionals: $33,429,532
        Hedge funds: $8,809,469
        Insurance: $15,977,057
        Lawyers, law firms: $126,366,216
        lobbyists: $13,958,352
        Oil and gas: $5,552,713
        pharmaceuticals,health products: $9,796,980
        tv,movies, music: $22,830,003
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        dunkirk1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Pssst Klarissa you keep providing amounts donated from people IN the business not FROM the business or its executives. why IS THAT?? And God forbid that Dems would receive money from education, oh the travesty of that.
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        From an article. The Obama campaign last night issued a statement by Raines insisting, "I am not an advisor to Barack Obama, nor have I provided his campaign with advice on housing or economic matters." Obama spokesman Bill Burton went a little further, telling me in an e-mail that the campaign had "neither sought nor received" advice from Raines "on any matter."
        The Washington Post made the claim but could not prove it as a fact.
        
        The Pinocchio Test
        
        The McCain campaign is clearly exaggerating wildly in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama on "housing and mortgage policy." If we are to believe Raines, he did have a couple of telephone conversations with someone in the Obama campaign. But that hardly makes him an adviser to the candidate himself -- and certainly not in the way depicted in the McCain video release.
        Also from the article by fact-checker
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Well, if Raines says he's not Osama's economic advisor or advised him on any economic matters, then it HAS to be gospel, right lfergie?
        
        After all, Raines got 90 million from the Fannie deal from cooking the books back in 2006, so we should take a listen and believe ANYTHING that comes from this a-holes mouth, right lfergie ?
        
        Same goes for Franks, Paulson, Dodd and the rest of the Democrap thugs who did nothing to prevent this from occuring despite Republicans begging for reform.....
        
        Funny how Raines and the Post have recanted their story....
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Raines told the reported that someone called him from the Obama camp but he didn't know who.
        "Funny how Raines and the Post have recanted their story...."
        They never recanted on the story they are just setting the record straight. He got a couple of calls but no follow through and that is more evidence than you have that he advised Obama on anything.
        Just keep telling your lies and even you might believe them.
        As for the dealings of congress, there are thieves on both sides and that will never change. Just take a look at these prize people.
        http://www.gimmiesometruth.com/tricks.html
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        Ratskii1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Um, earth to FSU, earth to FSU, last time I checked Paulson was a republican.
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        Klarissa1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Mr. Johnson and Mr. Raines aren't the only figures in the subprime mortgage scandal to be connected to the Obama campaign. Jamie Gorelick, rumored to be an attorney general candidate in an Obama administration, was vice chairman of Fannie Mae from 1997 to 2003. Penny Pritzker, Mr. Obama's national finance chairman, has been described as "the Michael Milken of the subprime mortage crisis" for her pioneering of the packaging of bad loans with good ones at her now defunct Superior bank in suburban Chicago.
        
        "The financial engineering that created the financial meltdown was developed by the Pritzkers and Ernst and Young, working with Merrill Lynch to sell bonds securitized by sub-prime mortgages," said Timothy Anderson, a retired bank consultant.
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        dunkirk1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Psssst Klarissa unless you forgot the whole mess with Fannie and Freddie occurred under REPUBLICAN control. They had complete control of the government and couldnt reign them in??????
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Psssst dunkirk did you hear of a filibuster. Threaten that and the bill just lies around collecting dust. The Democrats went to the wall defending them and were well paid for that service.
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        NoWayMan1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Franklin Raines was NEVER involved with finding Obama's veep. You might be thinking of Jim Johnson, who was connected with Fannie. He stepped down from the search team.
        
        BUT, before you get your panties in a twist...
        
        Guess who was in charge of finding McCain's VP?
        
        it was ARTHUR CULVAHOUSE, a long time lobbyist for both Freddie and Fannie.
        
        ALSO...at least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years.
        
        And RICK DAVIS, one of McCain's top advisers, served as president of an advocacy group led by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that defended the two companies against increased regulation.
        
        so please, quit acting like McCain is Mr. Clean here.
        
        He's not. He' never has been. He never will be.
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Just keep saying that Raines is not involved with Obama. You might even believe it yourself.
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        NoWayMan1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        and you just keep saying Rick Davis (one of McCain's top advisers), Arthur Culvahouse, and 20 of McCain's top fundraisers aren't involved with Freddie and Fannie.
        
        You might even believe it yourself.
        
        and I love how you cons are so willing to believe the Wash Post when they said there was a connection between Raines and Obama. But when they came back and said the contributing writer wasn't correct in that accusation, then you don't believe the Wash Post.
        
        see? thats how fu*ked up you are.
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        "And since you don't even know that simple fact, why would anyone read the rest of your nonsense?"
        
        I guess you should read the rest of my nonsense....
        
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        The Washington Post made a comment that was taken out of context. Fact-checker has disputed the Post's article and McCain's attempt to to tie him with Obama.
        "The McCain campaign is clearly exaggerating wildly in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama on "housing and mortgage policy." If we are to believe Raines, he did have a couple of telephone conversations with someone in the Obama campaign. But that hardly makes him an adviser to the candidate himself -- and certainly not in the way depicted in the McCain video release."
        But keep trying because it's all you have to hang your hat on. LMAO
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Like I said, lfergie....
        
        It's funny how they stories are being recanted and with the Freddie and Fannie crap happening right now, I'm sure they are scrambling to cover up their tracks....
        
        There has already been subpoena's and an investigation pending, so we'll see how squeaky clean your candidate is and his TRUE relationship he had with Raines....
        
        http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MORTGAGE_GI...
        
        These things take time to come out and I'm sure they will
        
        and I'm quite sure you're crappin' your pants hoping it doesn't come out....
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        As I said, you keep telling those lies and even you might start believing them.
        Hey! Speaking of lies, what's Rush Limbaugh's latest talking points?
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Yes, I do actually believe Raines is a liar....
        
        You're absolutely right on that one, lfergie....
        
        And I don't listen to Rush....I'm more of a laura Ingraham and Glenn Beck fan...
        
        What do you listen to ?
        
        Karl Marx's greatest hits ?
        
        ROCK ON, FERGIE !!!
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Ah Glenn Beck. That explains a lot. He's a bigger fruit cake than Rush Limabugh.
        Karl Mark's? No he's not my bag but I'm sure he is a favorite of Karl Rove, George Bush, Cheney, and yes, even McCain.
        In fact the whole administration with their cabinet have practiced the Mark's theory of deceiving the American people
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Typical of the left. Always call anything that someone on the right says is a lie. According to you people anything said by the left on the radio is hate speech and lies. Rush is rated by an independent organization that gives him a rating of 97% in getting the facts correct. But he and all of them lie. The people on the right have ethics that are to be truth tellers but you call them liars
        
        Look in the mirror.
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        HannibalBarca1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Any politician that gets an approval rating of 97% from a poll shows that, that poll is obviously out to lunch; especially when talking about shrub.
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        Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Can't read can you. Try again and read it slowly enough so you can read all of the words carefully. Then you will find you made a fool out of yourself.
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        HannibalBarca1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Well you obviously missed the boat, any poll that gives any politician a 97% approval rating is out to lunch.
        What is so hard for you to understand that comment.
        And when it comes to shrub, it will never happen.
        Now it seems to me that English must be your third language.
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        NoWayMan1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        yeah numbnuts. thats the story that was debunked by the Washington Post's fact checker. and factcheck.org backed it up.
        
        Michael Dobbs, the WP fact checker, wrote:
        
        "I asked Huslin to provide the exact circumstances of that passage. She said she was chatting with Raines during the photo shoot, and asked 'if he was engaged at all with the Democrats' quest for the White House. He said that he had gotten a couple of calls from the Obama campaign. I asked him about what, and he said, Oh, general housing, economy issues.'"
        
        But that conversation is "pretty flimsy" evidence, Mr. Dobbs said.
        
        >>>>>> "The McCain campaign is clearly exaggerating wildly in attempting to depict Franklin Raines as a close adviser to Obama."
        
        Howard Kurtz, the Post's media writer, said: "(Raines) has never been a close adviser to Obama."
        
        for their lies, the McCain campaign was awarded two pinnochios by the Wash Post.
        
        like I said.
        
        Nonsense.
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      sinophil491 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      FSU - Bill Clinton already proved that the government income and the country's economy improves when you tax the rich more. In his Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, Clinton increased the tax on the top 1.2% of income earners. He lowered the tax on the middle class. He increased the earned incme credit on the poor. He gave 90% of small businesses tax credits.
      What happened is historic.
      The tax revenues increased. The budget deficit disappeared. The last 4 budgets passed by Clinton from 1997-2000 brought ever increasing surpluses and the national debt actually decreased.
      The reason is that giving money to the rich and the corporations DOES NOT GENERATE JOBS. The rich simply put the money away in investments. The corporatons simply increase their profit and distribute larger dividends to the stockholders.
      The middle class and the poor tend to spend more of their discretionary income. So when they have more money, they buy more goods. IT IS INCREASED PURCHASING AND INCREASED ORDERS THAT STIMULATE FACTORIES TO PRODUCE MORE AND THEN INCREASES JOBS.
      
      Supply side economics, Trickle-down economics, voodoo economics, robbing the poor to pay the rich - whatever you want to call it - does NOT work. A Republican lie to shower favors on rich friends and donors.
      
      As far as Franklin Raines is concerned, he talked to Obama or one of the advisors a couple of times. Raines was never the "top economic advisor" to Obama.
      You are trying to create the fantasy of a collaboration between the 2, just like Bush and Cheney tried to create conspiracy meetings between Hussein's and al Qaida's officials in Prague. Never happened. Just another Republican lie or fantasy.
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    Candida1 month, 4 weeks ago
    
    Endoscopy: "You are known by the company you keep"
    
    Do you also condemn all the Republican Senators and Congressmen because they hung around with the few politicians and administration officials who had to resign or have even been convicted?
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      FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
      
      um, candid camera ?
      
      resigning officials and congressment are a far cry from known terrorist like Bill Ayers who blew up the Pentagon and later said that "he didn't do enough"....Rev Wright's radical, white-hating, America hating talk is also a major difference compared to what you mentioned above....And yes, you're associations do matter especially when you lie about sitting in a pew for 20 years and saying he never said nasty things like that....Or having someone from your very own camp admitting that Osama and Bill Ayers were still "friends"....
      
      Yes, I would say that is a BIG problem.....Don't you ?
      
      I don't understand why you libs cannot see the disconnect...If McCain had attended a KKK meeting back in his youth 1 time, you libs would crap your pants, biting at the bit, to make sure that bigot never came to power.....
      
      I don't understand why these questions have not been answered and why the media purposely buries their head in the sand on this....
      
      No, they're more concerned about trashing Palin and her family, playing snippets of her messing up, or making her appear that she's this bible-thumpin' holy roller that is somehow going to force EVERYONE to worship God if she gets the VP spot...
      
      Tell me something, candid camera, if Palin is soooooo bad, then why does she have a 80% approval rating ? Are all Alaskans dumb possibly ?
      
      What's Congress's approval rating ?
      
      I rest my case....
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        lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        "resigning officials and congressment are a far cry from known terrorist like Bill Ayers who blew up the Pentagon"
        Don't you mean the present administration that allowed terrorist to bring down the World Trade Center and Pentagon?? Yep! Bush and Cheney. They are friends of McCain.
        "Tell me something, candid camera, if Palin is soooooo bad, then why does she have a 80% approval rating ? Are all Alaskans dumb possibly ?"
        Better check the latest news before blowing that horn. Her ratings in Alaska are dropping like a rock.
        http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/artic...
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Did you read your won article? It said with all the media "hatred" and the smear campaigns aimed at Palin, of course, her numbers are going to drop....
        
        People like you believe all the crap you read and hear on CNN and the NY Times, so why would alaskans be any different?
        
        Everything from Troopergate (or Taser-gate) to her yougest daughter supposedly being her GRAND-daughter has of course affected her approval numbers.....Before this election and before her VP nomination nobody cared about her and now that she is in this race, of course, the Osama lovin', butt kissin', Democrap wantin' ,liberal media is going to do everything in their power to make sure she doesn't come close to the VP slot in DC and that includes the lies and myths they seem to conjure up out of nowhere...
        
        Funny, that kid, who I thought was a Democrap senator's son, who allegedly hacked into her emails, tried and tried to find some dirt on Palin, but guess what ? There wasn't any.....
        
        The same will happen with all the other crap you libs hope will be true about Palin...
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        lfergie,
        
        Just thought of an excellent analogy that would explain why Palin's numbers were droppin as you say they are....
        
        It would be like me standing outside of a restaurant yelling to customers as they walk in that there were rats found in this place and I found a bug in a bowl of soup....I wouldn't eat in there if I were you.....
        
        Now tell me....Would you go into that restaurant after I said that ? Would the popularity of that restaurant dwindle over time with me outside bad-mouthing the place ?
        
        I didn't think so....
        
        The media has destroyed her and her family and people like you believe the horsechit they shovel your direction....
        
        plain and simple....
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        FSU92grad1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Oh....and almost forgot the most important part of the analogy....The thing about the rat and bug? They were ALL lies.....I just didn't like the restaurant owner....
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        dunkirk1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Let us ALL remember that FSU is a die hard REPUBLICAN. Something I really hope he always makes clear when he posts.
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        HannibalBarca1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        Sorry there, but you used the wrong words in my opinion.
        Should be blow hard instead of die hard, and never does he make anything clear, except his distortion of facts, mind you he does whine with gusto.
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        sinophil491 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        What the heck are you loony neocons doing talking about William Ayers all the time?
        In Ayer's crazy days as a radical, Obama was a kid of 7 or 8. In Chicago, Ayers and Obama worked on educational projects. There were no bombings resulting from the couple of joint educational projects they worked on.
        
        You know. There is a distinct feel of desperation and mean-spiritedness in the attacks you neocons are spewing forth in these lies about Ayers, Wright, accusations about incresed taxes on the middle class.
        You guys are feeling the tide in America turn against the Republican hegemony of the past 12 years and the ascendancy of the Democratic banners.
        You neocons are just lashing out with any and all lies, fabrications, innuendos that you can conjure up. Really it's starting to look rather pitiful seeing your desperation and seething hate and racism.
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        gamahuche1 month, 4 weeks ago
        
        "I rest my case"
        Not a "case", but hopefully a long rest.
        For eternity?
        ***
        And the wanker lied! Went on-and-on.
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  capecoralM1 month, 4 weeks ago
  
  Is the Propeller Headline "Palin's Ayers Attack "Racially Tinged" a racial attack on Palin? Looks that way to me. Ayers and his associates are homegrown terrorist who happen to be Caucasian.
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BillieMaxer2 months ago

Palin like her Repug partners, don't give enough credit to the average American. The people of America have been duped too many times in the last 8 years and I truly believe the majority will not let America down for another 4 years of the same.Sarah Palin is just an act and the American public is having fun with it, but they aren't being fooled by it.
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  Endoscopy1 month, 4 weeks ago
  
  Tell me why when anything is said against Obama it is racial.
  
  I do not like what Obama has done and what he stands for.
  
  Go for it calling me racist. I dare you.
  
  Before you do you might want to check my profile before you make a fool out of yourself.
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    lfergie8121 month, 4 weeks ago
    
    I would not call you a racist but I would call you a Republican. To me that is worst than a racist.
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